Finding The Leader In You with Leadership Development Specialist Gabriel Basque

Tim Melanson: hello and welcome to today’s episode of the Work at Home Rockstar podcast.

I’m really excited for today’s guest. He’s a friend of mine . I’m talking to leadership development, uh, specialist at L M I. And, uh, what he does is he helps people realize their God-given potential through leadership development. Very excited to be talking to Gabe here. Gabe Bask. Hey, you ready to rock Gabe?

Gabriel Basque: Absolutely. Thank you so much for having

Tim Melanson: me. Oh, I’m excited to have you here. I’m excited to hear your story. This is gonna be really cool. So we always start off here in a good note. So tell me a story of success in your business, though. We can be inspired by.

Gabriel Basque: Uh, well, I can, it would be, it would definitely be easier to talk to you of all the failures I went through, but, um, I’ll, I’ll start with this quick story.

Um, so I, I’ve discovered my calling for coaching at Yeha 21, and I’ve been coaching since then. That’s all I’ve done in my whole adult life. It’s coaching. Um, I’ve, uh, so the first client that ever signed up to coaching, her name was Mel, 31 years. This was when I was working in the fitness industry. Um, she was 263 pounds at the age of 31.

This was July, I think, 14, 2011. Um, so that’s when I started my career as a coach. Long story short, 12 months, she lost over 100 pounds, ran a 5k, and then six months after, ran a half marathon. Her last agreement that she signed up for coaching. Was her last’s attempt to renew, and she’s like, Gabe, like, what’s the most sessions I can purchase?

I said, well, good life has a cap of 2, 2 0 5. So she invested to 205 sessions of personal training. There was a $14,000 agreement she had to make a loan for it. because she was genuinely transformed through that process. And here’s the punchline. She never had a goal to lose weight. She never followed a diet.

She never followed meal plan. She never did a change of his heart. All through mastering the basics, making one small change over time, making it automatic, and the the results was, As you just heard, like losing a hundred pounds in 12 months. Like it’s just, it was, so that was the first ever client I’ve coached.

And then the rest was history .

Tim Melanson: Wow. Wow. Yeah. And we met, so we met at goodlife, I believe actually. Yeah. And uh, we’ve had some really cool conversations and they’ve almost always been about, Leadership habits, you know, those kinds of things. It was never really about fitness. I think you might have told me, Hey, maybe you should be, use this form instead.

but yeah, but I don’t think it’s usually about that. It’s very, so it was very cool. It’s, and, and, and that makes sense to me, that you would get those kinds of results because that’s how you think you’re, you’re not thinking about the, the specifics of how to do the moves. It’s about mindset. Oh,

Gabriel Basque: I’ve asked, I’ve asked Mel specifically, which I have a habit to ask clients like, why did you invest?

And she said, two reasons. Number one, because to be honest and transparent affording it was, uh, a big challenge. Like she almost then was able to make it happen. But we, we, we found a solution. She said two reasons. I was more afraid of the number on the scale that I was afraid of the number on the PT calculator.

So then the actual amount for the investment. And then, then the other reason, then here’s the, the lesson I’ve learned from that experie. Gabe, she said, Gabe, I felt like you believe more in me than I actually believe in myself. And, and, and that was, that was the connection. He’s like, I, I just found someone that believe in me more than actually believe in myself.

I’m all in. I don’t care what you tell me, what, what needs to be done, I’m just gonna do it. Wow.

Tim Melanson: Oh, that’s amazing. Yeah. And you know, in, in a way it’s, uh, A little bit sad that it takes a, that much fear to really flip things around and start to, and start to go for, for things. Cuz, cuz I mean it. You hear that all the time.

People are at rock bottom. Rock bottom at whatever it is that they’re trying to change before they actually start to make that move in the right direction. Um, but on the other hand, that’s where they’re gonna find someone like their Gabe, right? is at the rock bottom when they’re just, I have not nowhere else to go.

I’m willing to do whatever. And then they find that person that believes in them, right? Yep. Wow. Yep. . So now the, the good note goes hand in hand with a bad note, . Yeah. And I know you mentioned that there have been some struggles along the way mm-hmm. now. So can you share with us something that didn’t go as planned and how you got out of it?

Gabriel Basque: Yeah. Well, my first rock bottom to, to continue that train of thought was actually right after meeting Mel. So I met Mel July, 2011. Prior meeting her I was unemployed for 12 months. I was unemployed for 12 months through my tw twenties. Uh, prior to that I was a correctional officer. I used to work at the Moncton Jail.

Oh, uh, that’s my background. Uh, so I got laid officer, correctional officer. I was divorced. Few people know this. I divorced with my ex-fiance. I was engaged coming up in high school. We were living together. Um, I was an alcoholic. I was addicted to porn. Uh, I was, uh, had a anger management problem, so like literally to like literally punching coal in the wall, like a lot of anger in, in myself.

And so I was unemployed for 12 months prior meeting. Mel. , uh, with good life. And through that year, there’s a time specifically during the summer that it, it got so bad because I was drinking my paycheck. Um, I’ve, I’ve, I, I had three options. I’m either moving on the street, I’m moving back home in btu, which was not an option because I had too big of Nigo, um, or I would’ve find somewhere else to, to, to, to stay.

Um, and, uh, so I, I did what we do back then. I went to Ki Gigi. To find a room to rent. And I moved into a random family up Monkton North, um, in their son’s, uh, bedroom. And it was, it was literally, it was literally at that time I was living it. It was so weird. Like I was living in this room with a family I did not knew, just cuz that’s all I could afford.

I was sitting on the bed inside looking all of his weird posters on the wall and I’m like, what the hell are you doing? Like, what? Like, Wake up like this is, this is not life. So that’s when I started asking myself the questions, what’s the meaning of life? What happened after I die? What’s the, what’s the real purpose behind my life?

Our life? Why, why was I born in the first place? And that’s when I started kind of making the connections of like, okay, I care about people, I care about Pat, about about fitness. and that’s when I eventually led to start a career in coaching. But prior meeting Mel, I was like, I was broken and broke. .

Tim Melanson: Wow.

Wow. Okay. Whew. Well, and maybe that’s why you’re so effective at what you do, cuz you’ve been there, you, you’ve, you’ve, you’ve, you know what it feels like to be broken and. .

Gabriel Basque: Yeah. And that’s one example. And eventually I became and learned how to be blessed from Burkin to bless. Um, but in the mix of all that, there’s also more challenges in my coaching career, um, that I can, I’m more than happy to share.

But I would say that that would be my first example of a rock bottom in my life. Wow.

Tim Melanson: Okay. So let’s talk a little bit about practice, because. Especially in everything you do, . I’m sure that practice and routine and all those things, uh, come into play, but I, I like, I’m not even gonna gonna prompt the question.

I wanna know what does practice mean to you? What, what does that mean?

Gabriel Basque: Uh, well, it’s, it’s, I, my personal answer will be uncommon to the average person in the sense that my whole life now, um, since the last four years, since I’ve accepted Christ in my. Um, my life is faith, family help business, so all of my thought process, feelings, emotions, action, behaviors, and how I recondition how I practice.

A, a higher frequency of productivity comes directly from the owner’s manual of life, , which to me, that’s the Bible. So for me, that’s all my practice. Best practice comes from the teaching of Jesus. Um, all the books of wisdom from Proverbs, job Ecclesiastes. Um, one of the books that I studied for practice is Proverbs, and there’s 31 chapters in the.

And I’ve been studying that specific book since April, 2020 daily. So every day there’s a, there’s a bit of a reading and meditation and, and, and dissecting end, the book of Proverbs and there’s 31 chapters. So it’s easy to do a month, a daily. So since April, 2020, I’ve been studying Proverbs. Wow. Uh, so, so in that specific book, it’s all about practice.

Leadership, marriage, managing money, confidence, communication skills, like all, it’s a book on wisdom. Uh, Solomon, um, gather all the famous, um, why sayings of his time and he constructed this book of practices. So that’s where, that’s where I gain knowledge. , which is just like how we think, but then wisdom is what we do, which is through the heart, and that’s where I gain my wisdom now in my life.

Tim Melanson: Wow. Where do you think, uh, where do you think the motivation comes from to keep up with, with, with all this stuff

Gabriel Basque: at? Well, it, it, it starts with, Truly understanding one’s purpose, right? It’s the from Simon Cenek, start with Y or uh, Victor Frankl From man Searching for Meaning, right? Survive. Concentration camps, purposely driven versus outcome driven.

Gabriel or Ette. Um, it’s, it’s or Mark Twain from the two most important days in your life is the day you’re born and the day you figure out why you were born. So for me, it’s, it’s the, it’s, it’s where the rubber meets the road is when someone truly realized, what’s that idea that’s bigger than Gabe?

What’s that idea that’s bigger than than me? And for me, it, it really came to me, uh, and it was hard cuz everything was just struggling from my finance, my marriage, my addiction to porn, um, to going through a, a full blown bank, uh, personal bankruptcy. I had over $200,000 of debt over my shoulders. So everything was crumbling, and then literally it was, uh, March 27th, 2018 at 8 0 1.

That’s when I will say, we’ll just say I came to Fade or I surrendered, and I just said, well, this is not working for me, so then I gotta find a better way. Uh, so then all my strength came. Then from, from that realization, like literally like this is, this is true story. I’ll share a quick story. Um, uh, 2019, I think it.

I was at an event called Stronger. Uh, we had, uh, a, I think it was a hundred or 300 men that gathered to, to gain strength and the knowledge and wisdom and, and at the end of the event, I felt weak. I felt puny. I felt like it was, I was, I was not strong. And then I start asking myself, or in my case, asking God like, why am do I feel so.

and this is when I hear this and I hear literally a, a small still voice speaking to me and say, Gabe, Google your name. I say, what are you talking about? Google your name. So honest to God, so I, I feel weak at a stronger event and I Google my name and when you Google Gabriel, the first thing you see is God is my.

So the Google definition of Gabrielle is God is my strength. Right? So true motivation come from denying self and to lean on to what I believe is where I gain my strength.

Tim Melanson: Wow. , you’re a deep fella. . I like it. Uh, okay, so now when. I find that this a lot is that, well, number one, you mentioned a whole whack load of vices.

I mean, the world is just filled with vices and, uh, and it’s, it’s, I mean, it’s challenging to stay away from all these vices that are just in our faces and in a lot of, , in a lot of cases, they’re made to sound like you are a better person or a stronger person if you give into these vices, including porn and, uh, gambling and alcohol and partying and all these things that people get into.

Um, and then at one point, you know, you sort of think, okay, you know, I need to, I need to stop all this stuff. And then you start. are there, do those challenges continue to come up? Do they get harder? Do they get easier? What? What happens

Gabriel Basque: after that? Well, I, I personally, uh, obviously vocal in, in, in my own struggles because there’s, as we share our own stories, we allow, we give permission to everyone else to do the same, and there’s a lot of healing through sharing.

And I personally, Volunteered a lot of time from street ministry, the guys at Harvest House, um, to soon prison ministry. Um, and, and, and for me, recovering from, from challenges or addictions, the addiction is really, uh, having a bad relationship with something. This could be work, this could be cell phone, social media, pupil acceptance, uh, your, your relationship with self.

So for me, I still struggle currently, um, with emotional eating, um, codependency, uh, but I have overcome, uh, pornography and, and the, the love of money, which is the root of all evil, right? Um, so, so the reality is I’m still just a human being. So the idea that, um, I will live a perfect life or a good life all the time is.

Is is crap. It’s fake. It’s, it doesn’t exist. So we will always be in the position of, of being tempted to do wrong. But we also are, are, are, uh, as a promise that we’re always gonna have a way to, to kind of not do wrong. But being tempted is normal. Like I will always be tempted to, I’m alone. I feel lonely, I feel weak.

Then I’ll ah, I’m just gonna stuff my. Which I had like a handful of chocolate yesterday as an example. Right. That that was not living righteously ,

Tim Melanson: but, but a lot of it is forgiving too. Forgive yourself. Yeah.

Gabriel Basque: Wow.

Tim Melanson: Absolutely. Now, what other tools do you use in your business or your life to help you with all this?

Gabriel Basque: Um, well, it’s, there’s, there’s many things that, um, that I sh I’m sure most people would know. But I think, I think one idea that I feel like to share is, is a tool that I feel is not communicated often enough. And is the idea that, again, from proverb, um, iron Sharps and I are as a French Sharps a friend, so what’s missing into this era?

is a stronger sense of community fellowship. Um, I have your back. You have my back and then, and then, and it’s actually all the way to Paul’s writing in Ephesian chapter six after he talked about the, the armor of God and, and all this. But there’s one piece that he’s missing in his description and is specifically the protection from your back.

he talks about the shield, the helmet, and the this, and the, and the soar, which is the God’s word, but what’s missing in his description in, in Ephesians chapter six, it is the protection from the back, and that protection from the back is again. Meek having your back and then you having my back. And, and what’s missing today more than ever is that idea of a sense of community where we can help each other and then that’s how we can be stronger.

Right.

Tim Melanson: Wow. Uh, yeah. I agree a hundred percent. Like it, it, it seems as though we’ve been. Gently pushed or , I don’t even forcefully pushed into this individualism where, you know, I, you know, you’re, you’re on your own, you know, you gotta make it happen on your own. And the, the whole family unit, the community unit, I mean, all this stuff is sort of turning into this global thing, which is super confusing because in a way, we’re all being brought together.

But also separated more at the same time. Yeah. Isn’t that interesting? How, how that’s how that’s working.

Gabriel Basque: Yeah. Yeah. We’re, we’re being deceived from what’s reality, right? Yeah. And then as we as, as we become wiser, more self-aware, and then we can discern right versus wrong, and then we realize that, huh, we are one human race,

We’re one family. Like we just gotta learn to get along and then love each other. But then from there to there, there’s a lot of, uh, There’s a lot of distractions. We’ll see. . Hi, it’s Mark Ney from Natural Born Coaches, and I want to give two very big thumbs up to Tim Lanson and his Creative Crew agency. I have been using them for a long time and I am 100% happy.

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Tim Melanson: Well, I, I think. I mean, if we look back, even, you know, let’s say 30 years ago, you know, before, you know, this whole globalization started to take hold and you think about how communities used to be a lot tighter and yeah, those communities would be more or less like-minded in the way that they think about things, right?

And so, um, yeah, okay, fine. There’d be some people with differing opinions, but no. No real deal breakers, really. I mean, you know, and, and even we were encouraged to not even talk about anything that could potentially be a, a deal breaker. Don’t talk about religion, don’t talk about politics, you know? Mm-hmm.

uh, so, so the things that could be deal breakers we weren’t talking about. So people were mostly like, like-minded. Now that social media is in play and this whole world is getting smaller, we’re being shown. , other ideas and some of those ideas, I think that they conflict with our identity with who we are and who we think the world is.

What we think reality is. Yeah. Now we’re seeing these other realities and we’re going, whoa, whoa, whoa. That’s not my reality. I don’t like that. That is actually threatening who I think I am. . Yeah. And we’re pushing against it now. . And, and I think a lot of that, that is, is a lot of the problem is that rather than recognizing that, that’s just their reality and that’s okay.

Mm-hmm. , I mean, if they’re happy, then I’m happy. And I might not like what they do and, and, and what they’re, what they’re doing over there. But if they all like what they do over there and they’re not hurting me mm-hmm. , the, the idea doesn’t hurt me directly. No. Sorry. It might hurt me directly, , but that’s my work.

To realize that I’m who I am and I’m comfortable, who I am, doesn’t matter who they’re, that doesn’t affect who I am. Yeah. And so I think that the, that the, the, the benefit that we have now is that because of this whole, uh, change in dynamics of making the world smaller, now we have access to more like mines.

Mm-hmm. , if we can stop worrying about the non like minds. . Yeah. Right? Yeah. Because it is like we’re fighting the non like minds when we could be just accepting the like minds, right? Mm-hmm. . Mm-hmm. . And you mentioned a couple things that you’ve been doing, like you’ve been having events with like-minded men and all that stuff.

Like that’s amazing. Like how, imagine there’s someone listening to this podcast that does not feel like maybe they’re alone, maybe. Maybe. Mm-hmm. so happens that their community is not like-minded. How do they find the like minds?

Gabriel Basque: Yeah. Well, it’s like, I don’t know, like if you look at, uh, Jim Rons, right? He talks about you’re already five, you’re the average of the five people you spend most time with.

Or if you look at Charlie Jones in the Vocal of Life, it’s tremendous small book, amazing book. I’m paraphrasing. Paraphrasing. He says that you are the, the average of the 10 people you spend time with, and you can only be in your 10, uh, top percent. So if you spend your time with idiots, you’re most likely to be an.

So it’s it, it really comes back down to as we grow, Self. And as we become more self-aware, then suddenly our environment also starts shifting and changing. So I had, I’ll give you an example. When I quit Good Life Fitness six and a half years ago, when I still was afraid of public speaking, have a lot of insecurities, but I knew that was what was right and what I need you, at that time, my self-image was not good.

But what I did that time was. My commitment, which was the minimum, was to meet one new person per week indefinitely to learn from their life, Hey, you own a business? Let me buy you a coffee. I wanna learn from you. And then it was once a week, sometimes with 3, 4, 5 people per week that I was intentionally meeting and learning from.

So that 20 person people per month. , right? That’s, that’s a lot of learning from people. I learned from doing. So that was a great way for me to learn. So I just took, took the initiative to surround myself with people that are millionaires and working to be billionaires, student, having successful marriage to then learning how to properly parrot kids, right?

And just all the, all the ideas of life. What I, I put myself in the position of learning from the people I admire and trust. Right? Um, Instead of just staying in the, in, in the, the bedroom that I, that I talked about in 2010, climb my face off being pissed, drunk and say, oh, it’s the end of the world. Like in my PD party.

He was like, no, like, what do I care for? What do I have to give? and I care for people. I care for fitness and that’s when I do a good life. Right. Wow.

Tim Melanson: Uh, I can double down on that. And I mean, that leads right into this. The next thing about learning from the best, learning from others. Cause when I, uh, and I’ve been in, in situations where, where my business has been nothing and, and it has been really stagnant and that’s one of my, one of my things too is I’ll actually go on social media’s great for that.

Go on social media. I’ll, I’ll go find people that have similar. interest? Not, no, maybe not even similar interests, interest that I want. Mm-hmm. , like, I’ll go find people who follow Jim Roan. I’ll go find people who follow John C. Maxwell and other leadership, uh, rich Dad port. Like, just anything that I think would be people that would be successful in something that I want and I offer to buy him a coffee.

And yeah. Now we have two people here right now that have offered to buy people coffee. And do they, do they say no and get mad at you? Hmm. No, they, they say yes. Like most of the time, most of the time that people that are successful are totally up for actually talking to somebody who’s hungry for that same success, right?

Mm-hmm.

Gabriel Basque: absolutely did. Like

Tim Melanson: did you have any pushback on that? Like was your experience the same?

Gabriel Basque: Uh, sometimes yes, but when they say, when there’s a pushback, they’re actually not rejecting Gabe. They’re rejecting themself. They don’t see their own self worth and being the person to, to be providing.

Support, help in that specific way. And I had to learn that the hard way, especially as a coach and in having people kind of reject the idea of personal development as an example through l m I and I had to learn. Has nothing to do with Gabe has all to do with them. They’re, they don’t, they don’t have enough confidence in themselves.

To then produce the results they know deep down they’re capable of producing. Uh, cuz we all have a glass ceiling, right? Um, and, and we can see through this glass and my role in this life is to help someone kind of break through from that glass ceiling. Um, and, and peop some people are just not ready to have those conversations.

Um, some people are just not ready to mentor someone else because they have their own insecurities around their own struggles and challenges. Um, But, um, yeah, so that’s completely normal to have pushback from people when you do reach out.

Tim Melanson: Yeah. And they, I mean, they obviously could also be busy , they have some other things on the go as well, right?

Gabriel Basque: Yeah. Busy. I would even say, I would even say not necessarily busy, but they’re just not prioritizing. Its like we’re all, we’re always continuously doing something. We can’t get more time. We all. 168 hours in a week, 24 in day, 1,440 minutes, 18,300 seconds. Like we can’t, we can’t add more time until our time.

We, what we can do is we can reprioritize our time based on our priorities. And it’s just, when someone says, I’m not busy, it’s just, you’re just not a priority. You’re not a priority in my life. And then they’re like, well, I just, I just rather do this instead. Right. . Oh, that’s awesome.

Tim Melanson: So let’s talk about that, because boundaries are important.

Yeah. And at some point you might, you might be in that situation where people are pulling on you and trying to get, because I mean, now you’re a, you’re a leadership coach. Yeah. So, so tell me more about that. So now, when somebody wants to pick your brain or whatever like that, what’s, you know, what, what do you do?

H how do you, how do you handle that? And make sure that you still have time for the things that you’re priorit.

Gabriel Basque: Oh, well, it’s . It’s funny, I’m, I’m, I’m not busy . I, I have all the time in the world. Like, I, I, I, I, I always coach, like we say, 68 groups at any given time, um, of, of successful executive business owners, directors, et cetera.

which only demands me like a week of three days of coaching on a bi-week basis. So I have a full week of more flexible time. Right. And I’m gonna have these similar conversations. So I do get on an equation. I met someone actually this morning for a coffee and he is like, yeah, you’ve been on my mind for like months now.

Like every week you’ve seeing your post and, and you messaged me out of the blue a couple months ago and I thought you were a weirdo. So I said, And then, and then as I start still thinking about you, I, I had like three people that said I should have a coffee with you, so I said I gotta reach out. So he ru reached out to me early this week.

We had our coffee this morning and we just had a good con con conversation. , but that happens fairly often. But it’s, it, it doesn’t happen to the point that I, I have to refuse people from like, no, no, I’m, I’m, I’m too important for you. Like, that’s like, I’m, that’s not Gabe. Like for me, if someone wants help, I’m gonna help you.

If and if it comes to the point that, , I don’t have the actual time. Then I’ll just coordinate a time with multiple people. ?

Tim Melanson: Yes. Create a little group. Yeah. Yeah. So

Gabriel Basque: then I’ve, I, I, I truly, uh, I love to, to volunteer, so I volunteer a lot of my time. So, so then if it’s that kind of the initiative, it comes to the point that there’s a, I don’t know, like there’s 40 people that wants to kind of bounce some ideas and.

Create a Zoom call and we’ll all log in on Zoom. So there’s, there’s never, there’s never a time that I feel that, that someone should be, again, it needs to be, it needs to feel right too. Like there’s, there’s people that definitely want to abuse, um, um, time, et cetera. But then as you grow wisdom, you can discern, you know, you know if it’s the right conversation to have or not, right?

So, , uh, you’re,

Tim Melanson: you’re right about that. Yeah. Because there are definitely some black holes out there that, uh, have no intention really of changing. Yeah. And they’re sort of trying to, I, I don’t even know what it is. I, I, I don’t, and, and I mean, uh, it’s tough to talk about this topic of the, the black holes because, uh, I think that there’s, like you mentioned before, I mean, coming out of like, so say alcoholism is a good one.

I’m sure that the people that you hung around with at the time that you were drinking a lot, were probably a lot of, uh, people that were also drinking a lot too, right? Yeah. And, and then when you come out of that and you start to move into something different, uh, it’s not, it’s not that you, I mean, I, I doubt you, you picked the phone, called every one of them and said, listen buddy, you drink too much.

I can’t hang out with you anymore. It was just a matter of you probably now just spending your time somewhere else and maybe less time with them. , but eventually these people do tend to try to kind of bring you back into their fold and they’re, they might even make it sound like they want to change too, but they don’t really want to change.

And that’s really difficult to get yourself in those situations. And a lot of times it’s like close old friends family that will try to pull you into their direction. So how do you handle that when that happens? Or, or has it happened? , it

Gabriel Basque: hasn’t really happened much like, to be honest, like as I change and grow and then I kind of live out what I feel is the right way to live.

Um, and I, I’ll, I’ll share this. I guess. A couple weeks ago I shared a post on that, uh, and I shared, and I said specifically in which I stand firm on procrastination is the inability to take personal responsibility and. People went crazy. Some people were like, obviously he’s super victim, super this, super that.

And, and again, this is me being a bit of a, a judgmental perception on the reaction of people’s. Um, and we had a really healthy conversation and there’s a few people that really resisted that idea and I kind of blame on certain things. I had a client that had similar challenges with mental health and she.

She, she grew out of that and she was responding to, to all the comments. But long story short, the more of, of that short story is that I’ve, I’m, I’m, I’m really vocal and here’s my cell phone. Let’s, let’s, let’s don’t, let’s not go through this rabbit hole. Call me. I will buy you lunch. I will you coffee.

Let’s talk about it over a conversation. So little in the comments. I wrote my cell phone number. And then I had clients this week. They’re like, Hey, like, yeah, what’s like, I, I had a hard, they said I had a hard time reading the comments and, and I saw your response and I saw you give your cell phone. And they said, how many people actually call you?

And I said, zero. Zero. So that’s why like, I don’t. , it has really never been a challenge, like kind of handling this conversation and, and all the different challenges from having a dis disagreements. Uh, a lot of people are really strong behind a computer. Um, so that’s why I u and I usually, I know that, so I’m, well gimme a call.

Like, when can I call you? Let’s cook for coffee, let’s talk about it. And I’m not seeing I’m, that, I’m the, that I’m more a hundred percent right. I have an opinion. Right. And you have your. , well, let’s talk about it. Let’s have a conversation. And, and often that’s not the case. So, um, so yeah, anyway, that’s just how I think.

Tim Melanson: I think there’s, I I, I just think there’s multiple realities. I think everybody’s got their own reality and so sometimes truth is very difficult because someone’s truth in one reality might not be the truth of somebody else in a different reality. And I mean, I know that’s kind of esoteric to talk about, but , but it is, uh, especially when you see social media.

I mean, once, once someone says, Hey, let’s go meet, I mean, that’s what’s so funny about it is. Back in the day before social media, most of the stuff that people say on social media, no one would ever dream of saying that to someone’s face. Yeah. It just, it, it’s just, it’s, it’s fake, you know? And, and for whatever reason, I’m not really sure why.

There’s probably a psychological reason why people feel more comfortable saying something in social media, even though their face is attached to it. Like, I mean, it actually is a real person, but they feel more comfortable saying it on social media than they would in in person. Yep. Um, okay, let’s move on to the next topic, which is your solo

Cause we’ve been talking for a while here. Uh, tell me what’s exciting in your

Gabriel Basque: business. Uh, well, lots of things we’ve been, so, was founded 60 years ago. Uh, the first ever program was sold for over 500 millions of dollars. Founder, net profit, over 100 million. So now we are working over 60, uh, 90 countries.

And over the last 60 years. So when it comes to coaching, we’re the largest organization that exists on the planet. Um, so for me, when I discover my purpose in thousand 14, I’m like, I’m not gonna revenge the wheel. I’m like, I’m gonna work with the best out there because when I work with a client, I want to guarantee success one a hundred percent of the time, money back guarantee.

So every single client that we coach, we guarantee success. We guarantee return on investment. We measure all the results. And LMI Canada has 17 different programs. So for us, the team is growing, the expansion is growing, the offering is growing. And it’s not really because of Gabe, it’s about, it’s about continuing Paul Meyer’s legacy.

Um, so that’s why the, the repetition for us here locally we’re, we’re just growing every year. Um, and it’s not. , it’s, I wouldn’t say that’s not, it doesn’t think they demand a lot of effort. Um, because like all business, there’s some effort that needs then that you need to do the work. Um, but all of our group has been organically through clients referrals.

Um, resales, I have had clients. That have been coaching for years now from the E PPP to E P L E M L, soon to e esl. Um, so I’m just continuing continuously providing this. Um, I guess in, in short, the knowledge gap, the, the how to, right? It’s a lot of people have a vision. Of where they want to go and what they want to achieve.

But they don’t have the how, they don’t have the, the, the, the, the practical tips and procedures to fulfill their God-given potential. And, and through going through a process, we meet on a biweekly basis or some cases monthly basis. And then there’s like, it’s like taking a big goal and you’re deconstructing into small pieces.

But if you do one small change on a biweekly basis for six months, , are you bound to have results? Like it’s, yeah, , even with the process, just, just accountability alone makes a difference. Right. Wow.

Tim Melanson: Okay. So are you, are you sort of like a local, like face-to-face coach or do you do things on Zoom as well?

Like how, how does your coaching

Gabriel Basque: work? So I do, I do work 60% of my time, like coffee shops home. I’m in my home right now. Uh, we do, we do have at least 80% of our local clients that prefers the in-person experience. So we have, uh, we just recently were selling the old building, uh, removing into just renting a boardroom.

Uh, well we moved two months ago up, uh, the mountain area on millennia. Um, so we do the biweekly session. In person, uh, which most clients prefer. But we also have the OWL conference planner, uh, video conference planner. So we have always about 20% of our participants that are not local, uh, cuz they’re across Canada.

So we have clients in out West, Toronto, Quebec, Halifax, they’re all zooming in. While we have, uh, we say 60 to 80% of the group that are actually local, local leaders. Wow.

Tim Melanson: So if I wanted to work with you and I lived in Vancouver, I could do that. I, I don’t have to be actually in

Gabriel Basque: Moncton. No, no. We have a, a list of clients in Vancouver, as an example, and British Columbia have someone starting two weeks from now.

Um, so we have, yeah, we work with, with executive business owners from, from all walks of life across Canada.

Tim Melanson: Uh, so just in Canada, not, not in the States yet.

Gabriel Basque: We, well, we have, uh, obviously existing partners, uh, across us, China, Australia. Um, so we work in 90 countries, so we Oh, wow. We would have a office. We’re representing LMI in, well, nine 90 countries.

So yeah, the US. .

Tim Melanson: Right on. Okay. So now what about, like, who would be the ideal person that would get the most from an L M I program?

Gabriel Basque: Uh, usually like, usually like a A C E O running a, a medium organization with a, uh, ex, like a sweet C-Suite director management level. Um, and this, this specific person. Is is truly gifted in, in, in, in running an organization, uh, but still lacking a bit of leadership, right?

Um, so there’s a big difference between management and leadership, and it’s, uh, it’s really equipping that c e o and really redirecting his time to be more focused on the people and less on the process. . Right. Uh, so most successful CEOs of organization, which is rare that I’ve seen, should be spending 90% of his or her time, like on the people and 10% on the process cuz they’re stuck in or managing right.

It’s really about like, Being laser focused on, on your craft. Right. And mastering, like developing the leaders around you. Right? So that’s how we really provide value to, to executives and directors and VPs and, and I’ll have groups that comes to me and they say, oh, I really need to grow my directors and my managers.

Okay, that’s great, but. Let’s start here first. . Yeah. Change starts at the top. It’s, but you’re not being productive. Say, no, no, no, no. Like, yes, but then you’re half of the problem. . Your ability to conspire change to your people is half of the battle. So I can, I can coach your, your directors, but if you’re not changing, there’s gonna be, uh, this is obviously learned from experience, like we have worked with organizations and, and the director of management level without working with.

C-suite and it’s, it’s, it’s, it’s not as, the output is not as as great that if we actually start at the top and then we work our way down to the different levels.

Tim Melanson: Okay. So if you’re a c e O and a business and you think your problem is your people, then chances are you’d be a good client for Illinois

Gabriel Basque: Yeah, exactly. Right. It’s like, it’s the, it’s not the people. It starts, it starts with taking responsibility, right? It’s, uh, , it’s the, it starts at the top, right? Uh, and people, it’s like the typical, like, uh, not saying this is the case for often, but we can ki we can all learn. We have the humility from it.

It’s do as I say, not as I do. Yeah. But I just wish my coo o o would be using his planner, be more organized. And, and then are you using it ? Are you, are you leading my example? Like often there’s the, there’re just probably. , but there’s a small disconnection. So it’s about increasing the leadership li of an organization from the top and then working down.

Tim Melanson: Love it. Love it. Right on. So tell me, how do we find out more?

Gabriel Basque: Uh, well, it’s, I’m fairly easy to connect. Like I’ve, I’ve, like, I, you guys learned today, I’ve have a habit of sharing my cell phone and conversations. Um, but on the website, we have a website locally, nationally, internationally. So locally it’s the ledge.ca.

Um, well, fairly easy to get a whole of from LinkedIn, Facebook, um, but um, yeah, website, website would be a really good, really good.

Tim Melanson: Awesome. Thank you so much for rocking out with me today, Gabe. This has been a lot of fun. Awesome. Thanks to the listeners, make sure you subscribe right in comment and we’ll see you next time on the Work at Home Rockstar podcast.