Controlling the Contents of Your Consciousness with Clay Green

Tim Melanson: [00:00:00] Hello, and welcome to today’s episode of the Work At Home Rockstar podcast. I’m super excited for today’s episode. We are talking to Clay Green again. I met him 10 years ago. We’re t- we’re figuring this out just now. So, uh, this is really cool. He is the chief enthusiasm officer at Conscious Flow Control, and what he does is he helps people to master the skill of controlling the contents of their consciousness so they can master conscious flow control and more than double their efficiency, output, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.

So super excited to be rocking out today with Clay Green. Hey, Clay, you ready to rock?

Clay Green: I’m ready to rock. I

love it

Tim Melanson: love it. Well, we always start off on a good note. Tell me a story of success that we can be inspired by

Clay Green: Uh, a story of success. Uh, like Tim- like you said, Tim, we, we just kinda realized that we met about a decade ago, and I’m celebrating big time. I, I realized it about two or three months ago that I’ve been doing what I’ve been doing now 12 plus years, over a [00:01:00] decade. And previously in my careers, I was in a job for about six years.

So I’ve been celebrating the ever-living devil out of that. It’s, it’s mind-blowing to me that, I mean, your, your podcast, we did that a decade ago, and I was already working from home. I wasn’t… There’s, there’s a whole story about that, where I’m living and all that stuff, but traveling or whatever. And so I’m just celebrating that.

I’m really, really, really thrilled and happy about this, this lifestyle and how it’s changed how I feel on a daily basis. It,

it just is amazing. Yeah

Tim Melanson: yeah, that, I mean, that, and that is a great story. I mean, to be able to do something, you know, f- that you’re passionate about for over a decade, I mean, that’s a big deal, right? I mean, people

Clay Green: I didn’t, I didn’t realize it. Like, that’s the part, just like you, I didn’t even realize it until I really started thinking about it. That’s the part. Yes

Tim Melanson: Yeah, time flies, and I, I feel the same way ’cause it’s been over a decade [00:02:00] for me as well, and my previous record would’ve been eight years with a company. And I mean, the, the funny thing about it, that, is that that was eight years. I knew it was eight years, right? However, now with this, uh, with this over a decade, I’m just like every once in a while, I’m just like, "Wow, I’ve been r- just

This has been going on and on and on. Like, this is amazing," right? Yep.

Clay Green: It’s been flowing

Tim Melanson: Now, uh, now, uh, I mean, I can’t say that it was all sunshine and rainbows though. There was some things that didn’t go super well over the, over the last, you know, you know, decade or so. And I’m wondering for you, can you share with me one of the bad notes that, that you hit over the years?

Clay Green: Well, I mean, it’s been a decade. We, and we kind of joked about it when we first got on here is a lot has happened. Um, COVID.

Tim Melanson: Oh, yeah

Clay Green: Uh, like, and regardless of which side you fall on, the political situation in America, it’s just been, the last decade has been quite turbulent and newsworthy.

Let’s [00:03:00] just now, now that we touched that, let’s step back from that.

Tim Melanson: Yeah. Yeah

Clay Green: Um, it’s, it’s, it’s crazy. Um, and then, you know, uh, I, I guess, uh, I went from, I went from being in this amazing, wonderful relationship, and y- it’s funny. It’s like timing, man. Uh, I was in a wonderful relationship when we, when we met,

and I was traveling around the country in my RV. And, um, fast-forward, that relationship is over.

Thanks, COVID. Thanks, all the stuff. Uh, but I mean, it was, it was appropriate, but it was, it was a tough, it was a tough breakup. Um, it was hard, but I still kept serving my clients. I still kept generating revenue. I still was able to keep the cash flow going. Um, cash flow, learning about that, because I’ve spent, like we were talking about jobs, most of my adult life I’ve been in a job, in a business.

Or not a business. I’m sorry. A [00:04:00] job, a s- a career. Yes, successful. Yes, wonderful. Uh, but it’s a whole different mindset when you start managing your cash flow that, as a business owner. And I guess a decade ago, you know, when it was like, I was like two to four years into trying to figure all that out, it’s, that’s a whole mind thing. Uh, so then, yeah, moved out of the RV. I’ve, uh, kind of returned to what I’m considering home right now, and I’m enjoying life. Um, so several challenges, if you wanna tear into any of them. Um, all of them telling me the importance of that, uh, controlling the contents of your consciousness

Tim Melanson: Yeah.

Clay Green: statement that you made.

That is so important.

Yeah.

Tim Melanson: Yeah, I, and I mean, on that note, I remember, you know, years before, uh, you know, lockdowns and all that other stuff that, that, uh, I remember, uh, I think I was listening to Jim Rohn talking about this kind of thing, and he’s like, "You know, it doesn’t matter who’s in power and who’s, [00:05:00] you know, whether it’s this or that, and, y- you know, really, you know, there are people that are having success regardless of that," right?

And a lot of that has to do with just not really worrying too much about any of that stuff. However, I will say that, um, there was, th- there was an impact on me only once depending on who was, who was in, in, uh, in office, and it was those lockdowns. I mean, that, that was one of those things that, I mean, it, it really did change a lot of things.

However, you know, uh, as probably most of us realize, I mean, there’s are always gonna be something… There, there is often something external to your business that can happen, and maybe it’s not political. Maybe it just is what it is, and

now it’s probably AI, right? That, that’s happening out there. And it, and it forces you to, to make a pivot and to make some changes [00:06:00] into what you do, and I, and I did, and it ended up working out really, really well for, for me.

Um, but I think what happens a lot of times is people get stuck with maybe, "This is what I do, and I can’t think of doing anything else," and, you know, you, you hang on too long. Is that… Do you think that might happen?

Clay Green: So, so I like how, like, you’re connecting the lockdowns to political, and it’s like that was… We could, we could segregate that out and it, but the lockdown, it was a very, in my mind, that lockdown, it, it, and, and the, the isolation and the work from home and all that, it freed a lot of people.

Tim Melanson: It, did

Clay Green: So I’m with you. Uh, I have a phrase that I, uh, say and that I lean on a lot. Everything always works out perfectly for me.

Tim Melanson: Yeah. Yeah, I think, I,

Clay Green: Yeah.

Tim Melanson: yeah, I, I think you’re right. I, I think that the biggest silver lining that came from those lockdowns is, I, I remember I probably told this to [00:07:00] you 10 years ago on, on the podcast, at some point most people are gonna be working from home, right? And having their own business. Now, I did not see that coming, right?

But, but I

Clay Green: your fault. Is that what you’re, you’re trying to take ownership?

Tim Melanson: well, g- ’cause what, what it did is, is it, uh, it proved a concept to a lot of these big companies that, uh, they were just resisting. I, I know, uh, you know, when I was in high tech, I did work for a company that allowed us to work from home, and in, i- in that aspect, I think it was because they realized they could get more out of us.

You know, nerds that were sitting around. You know, I was a programmer, right? So they, they’d get

more out of us, you know, coding at 2:00 AM. And, you know, giving us access to that, to that infrastructure, right? Uh,

but I do know that most companies, they didn’t, they frowned upon that stuff. Like, you were working from home, they figured that you were just slacking off all day.

And they realized real quick that, [00:08:00] yeah, there are some people that are not meant to work from home. They, they, they need that,

right?

Clay Green: structure. Yep

Tim Melanson: But there’s also a huge number of people that are far more productive working from home, and I think that that really did open that up. And so, you know, i- in the short term, I think maybe it might, uh, allow a lot of companies to start utilizing that.

But also, I think it can help a lot of us self-employed people, ’cause it now has opened up, you know, improved some tools. Zoom is much better now. Uh, you, lots of other teleconferencing tools that have come out. Like, it, it has improved a lot of things, right?

Clay Green: So much, so much. And the, and the, I love that phrase, man, the contents of your consciousness. Master the skill of controlling the contents of your consciousness. Now, the reason I’m saying that is because it, it, I’m very aware of, ’cause of what I do, of how many people struggled with, with, with, [00:09:00] like, there’s this, here’s normal and now there’s this change.

Tim Melanson: Yeah. Yeah.

Clay Green: it’s such a struggle

to adjust for, for so many people, and that’s the gift. If you can learn how to do that, if you can learn how to adjust and adapt my buddy Clint Eastwood in that one movie from, from the ’80s I think it was, uh, that’s the trick.

And, and I think that it, I think that the last decade, I’ll just say it that way, has helped people… It, it’s segregating people into the, into, into I need to hold onto these systems. ‘Cause I, I have clients right now that are struggling to transition into freedom,

into, into no job, but they’re still kinda holding on in their mindset with, with the, the s- the structure.

So it’s segregating those people really clearly in my mind.

And there’s

so many people now with doing s- Like, I ask everybody, "What, what are you, what are you selling on the side? [00:10:00] What’s your side hustle?" Like the baristas, the, you know, everybody, everybody. Anywhere I’m at, like, if I’ve got a minute and I’m wasting time or whatever in a, in a line, that’s the question.

And so many people will be, immediately say, "Oh, I, I sell paintings. I sell, I resell collectible pins." Whatever, you know, so whatever it is.

So it’s been great. I think it’s been great.

Tim Melanson: Good. So let’s talk a little bit about, you know, this, th- these practices and these ways to, I don’t know, control your consciousness ’cause, uh,

I mean, without

getting into the politics themselves, the, the, the issues that are going on right now are very, very polarizing, and people are really wrapped up.

And I, I’m, I’m just wondering, like, I mean, obviously if you’re upset about whatever’s going on out there, that’s gotta impact your business. So how, how do you, how do you not let that impact you?

Clay Green: You know, I, the first thing is [00:11:00] awareness.

Tim Melanson: Mm-hmm.

Clay Green: The first step in anything is awareness, and I think more and more people are realizing today, and, and it is just happening in my im- from my perspective, and I could be distorted. I see more people going, "Wait a second. Huh?"

And they’re becoming aware of

those triggers.

They’re becoming aware how, let’s just say BMW or Mercedes or Volkswagen or Po- Ralph, Ralph Lauren Polo marketing triggers people.

And, and, and how, how trained we are to exist triggered.

Tim Melanson: Yeah

Clay Green: So that awareness is, is in my mind the first step. It’s why, and, and I have, I have a little three-step process that I share with people, and I think we’re all doing this. And I’m g- it’s gonna be kind of weird the way I’m gonna present this, but regardless of… And, and I’ve, I’ve [00:12:00] talked to a lot of people over the decade now, over decades now. And, and regardless of religion or non-religion or politics or anything else, I ask this question: "Why are you here?"

And, and I, and I ask them to zoom out to the point where it’s like I’m talking about this lifetime.

I’m not talking about you building your podcast, you building your business, you coding, me teaching flow. No, I’m talking about as a human, why are we here? And the theory comes down to we’re either here to learn and grow or have fun

and experience. And so it’s, it’s very simple. If you just start there and it’s like, okay, well, if I’m here to either experience this or have fun or I’m here to learn and grow and get into heaven or, you know, whatever that growth reason is in your religion or your philosophy, it’s all good.

I don’t wanna change any of those things. But the point is learn and grow or experience [00:13:00] and have fun. How are you doing it? With this body. So my first step, the first most important, I tell people now it’s the most valuable thing that’s ever gonna come out of my mouth. Grow your awareness of your body.

Grow your awareness of your body. I have my clients write it down in their journal, "Grow my awareness of my body." And if you just focus on that every day, you- you’re like, "I’m gonna go to the bathroom. I’m gonna go take a shower. I’m gonna get in the car and go to the grocery store." Why am I doing that? One of the reasons, deep down, is to grow my awareness of my body. I wanna feel the difference in temperature. So you, you turn that awareness up. That would be the first, most important thing. The third thing, the third step in this process is why are you growing your awareness of your body? It’s, it’s because you may not like going [00:14:00] to that grocery store. You may not like your shower head. So, so the third step is what do you want? What do I want? the way I say it. What do I want? Right? So I want a new shower head, so I’m gonna go to the store, but I don’t like that store, so I’m gonna go to this other store. So I skipped number two on purpose because I kind of alluded to number two, and I just…

And, and I’m, I’m curious, Tim, like, do you see this? Do you, do you… Like, everything we were talking about, the last test, 10 years and everything that’s going on Most people make most decisions like I just described. I don’t like the shower head. I don’t like my car. I don’t like my partner or my girlfriend or my boyfriend. I don’t like it when my kids get bad grades. What do I want? I want their grades to improve. I want it different. I want something different,

right? They start from a place of lack [00:15:00] and fear

unconsciously. So my second step is let’s get rid of the lack and fear. Let’s, number two, so number one was grow my awareness of my body. Number two is chase, attain, and maintain gratitude. Then and only then, in my opinion, is it beneficial for you to ask, "What do I want?" Because when you’re in a state of gratitude, you’re empowered. You’re in a place where it’s abundant. There is love. You’re feeling good. So what do you want? I, yeah, I want the shower head to be harder, right?

Instead of, "I don’t like that." What do you want? I want the shower head to give me more pressure, and I want it to be able to go to this one massage setting. Because otherwise, you’re gonna go to the store and you’re gonna see a whole bunch of different shower heads, and you’re not gonna pr- the odds are you’re not gonna find the one you want unless you’re looking for what you [00:16:00] want.

That

Tim Melanson: Yeah.

Clay Green: make sense?

Tim Melanson: Yeah, yeah. Yeah, and, and I mean, you know, sometimes you might have a salesman that’ll tell you, that’ll ask you those questions, and you end up getting getting what you want. But, uh, but, but on the other hand, yeah, you might just replace it with something that you also don’t want

Clay Green: The k- the key thing I’m saying is the default for most people that I meet and, and I see in the world is, "Eh, I don’t like that. I don’t want that. I’m gonna go over here."

Tim Melanson: Yeah

Clay Green: Instead of, "What do I want? Oh, I want that."

Tim Melanson: Yeah.

Clay Green: with it. Yeah

Tim Melanson: Well, I think, I, I think the way that, that I see that is, is sort of acting, uh, reacting to things versus acting intentionally, right? Like when, uh, when you’re reacting to something that you don’t like, then you’re not necessarily going towards what you do like. You’re just running away from what you don’t like

And depends on which direction you happen to be running. Whereas if [00:17:00] you instead figure out exactly what you want, then you can run in that direction for sure

Clay Green: 100%. The, uh, I love that word reacting. I, I, I don’t know if I said it in our first interview a decade ago or not. It was, I said it was nine and a half years, whatever it’s been. Um,

uh, but I, I used to say this a lot. A- and it’s I help people learn to think, not react.

Tim Melanson: Yeah

Clay Green: And there’s a very clear delineation there. ‘Cause those three steps that I just shared with you, except for the chase, attain, maintain, we’re doing it. Every day everybody’s doing it. Why’d you get up and go to work today? Why did y- If you’re listening to this right now, why did you l- click on this podcast? Was it because you wanted something or because you’re trying to get away and change your life from something else?

Tim Melanson: Yeah.

Clay Green: Right? It’s, it’s, so we’re doing those three steps, and you just cracked into the, the, [00:18:00] the, piece that matters is you’ve gotta be aware of your body. Am I… We are aware of our bodies, but if, if, something hurts a little bit, we’re not gonna change much. It usually takes a pretty big impetus, like you got fired, you got laid off, you got… Your, your, your girlfriend broke up with you, so you’re gonna change how you’re acting. You know what I’m saying? There’s the, there’s these big things that prompt us usually.

M- my pitch is grow your awareness and listen to the little things.

Tim Melanson: Yeah. Yep

Clay Green: Increase your s- excuse me, increase your sensitivity so that as soon as you see that commercial, as soon as your partner says it this way, you’re aware there’s something a little off and you’re able to figure out what it is. You’re able to satiate your reactivity then solve the problems

Tim Melanson: Well, and, and the way … [00:19:00] So the way it’s worked in my life anyway is that I think that these cues that our body gives us, like the, you know, the pain here, the pain there, or the uncomfortableness here, the uncom- comfortableness there, those are all sort of cues. And I think that they’re attached to what we think, but w- whatever.

Either way, um, i-

if, if something happens, uh, that’s like a little annoyance, and you don’t handle it, well, isn’t it just gonna grow? So I think everything works kind of the same way, is that, like you say, we only change when something really big happens. Well, that’s because you ignored all the signs that led to that point, right?

I mean,

there was … You know, even when you think about something that’s not like a pain in your body, like a, like a, like getting fired or something like that, I guarantee you that didn’t happen overnight. There, there was, there was something that led up to that, and you just ignored all those signs and eventually got blindsided by that, right?

Clay Green: Like the, like the, the great prophet said, "Signs, signs, everywhere there’s

signs." [00:20:00] I love that song.

Um, uh, yes, 100%. I don’t know if I asked you this when we first met. I, uh, I c- now I kinda wanna go back and listen to that first podcast.

One of my favorite questions that I always ask people when I first meet them, if I’m, if they’re thinking about working with me or whatever, is I ask, ’cause this connects to what you just said about your thoughts. I ask, "What did your mom and dad do for money when you were one year old?" So you can think about that. I’m not actually asking you right now, but if you think about that, here’s why I ask that question. I ask that question because it tells me a lot about your unconscious mind.

Tim Melanson: Yeah, that’s true.

Clay Green: Your, the first 18 months, your brain grows more than the rest of your life. More gray matter is created, and in the creation of that gray matter is when the way your parents and the, the caretakers and the people you spent time around [00:21:00] as an infant and what you were going through then is what’s programmed in. And so you said your thoughts create a lot or if not all of those ouchies or those prompts.

I agree 100%, and it’s the majority are unconscious thoughts,

things that you’re not aware of. And yeah, I help… So the first step I help people do is learn, is master the skill, like you said, of, of controlling the contents of your consciousness,

because your unconsciousness is trying to control that all the time.

Um, so you gotta master that skill, and then we can get into the productivity stuff.

Tim Melanson: yeah.

and it, and, and I think to that point, uh, I, I once learned that you can’t focus on two things at the same time. So it really, what matters is that you’re not necessarily trying to think, like, don’t think of the purple elephant . It’s, it’s think about the thing that you want, [00:22:00] and then you, you’re not thinking about the purple elephant, right?

And, and I think that that’s a, a, you know, that’s kind of goes back to the same thing that you just said a second ago with f- you know, go towards what you want rather than away from what you don’t

Clay Green: I have nothing to add.

I have no comment other than hell yeah.

That was a hell yeah.

Oh,

Tim Melanson: so tell me about your learning journey. Like, have you… D- do you hire coaches? Do, like, do you have mentors, masterminds, any of those things?

Clay Green: Um, yes.

Tim Melanson: To

all those, yeah

Clay Green: Uh, um, yes. Oh, my learning journey. Whew I’m sorry for the pause there. I’m just taking a moment of feeling grateful. There is, there h- I… It is shocking. It is shocking when I stop and try to think about everything I’ve learned. Um, and the [00:23:00] way that I feel that is, one, I’ll bring on a new client.

I j- I recently onboarded a client that is, uh, he’s a da- a data scientist, like a, a master’s or PhD. He’s like a director of data science for this company, and he’s, he’s, he’s doing… I, I don’t wanna get too personal here, but he wants to develop a side hustle. And so I realize the delta between my understanding now of marketing, cash flow, managing my day so that I can run a business.

See, all these, all these things, these are little tidbits I’m dropping here. There’s so many things. Um, there’s so many things that he needs to learn over time, and it becomes a challenge. Like, which one’s the first? And I, and I, I always go back to, you’ve gotta master the contents of your c- learn the skill of mastering your contents, your consciousness.

Tim Melanson: Yeah

Clay Green: Um, and every mentor that I [00:24:00] bump into, every book I read, every, every m- mastermind that I’m a part of, the, it’s, it’s, it’s the sa- Yes, there’s, there’s a skill of, uh, marketing, and that’s changing like crazy with AI, ads, the

cost, the way you get clients, how, and your business and all the different options and ways you can get clients for your business. There’s so many.

Tim Melanson: Yeah

Clay Green: But I, I, I, I don’t… Did I answer your question? Yes, my learning journey has been massive.

It’s like I don’t even know how to start to tell it. Um, did

Tim Melanson: do you, h-how do you find, uh, how do you go about finding a m-mentor? Like, if you, if you’re looking for some help, what, what would you do?

Clay Green: Uh, I said it earlier, everything always works out perfectly for me.

Tim Melanson: Ah, so it just comes into your life. Yeah.

Clay Green: find, I find [00:25:00] that.

Tim Melanson: Yeah

Clay Green: Now, and this is, and this is that hard part. This- so, so someone that’s just starting on this journey is not practiced in trusting their intuition. They’re

not practiced in listening to that still, small voice. And so they’re seeking and they’re looking.

Well, here’s, here’s what I would say. And, and I did this, I did this. I, I, I… Going back to the beginning of my l- learning journey, um, it was all about the person I resonated with. I heard, uh, I don’t know if you’ll remember this name or not, but I heard Dane Maxwell on a podcast, on the Smart Passive Income with Pat Flynn. I- it was, like, episode 14 or 34 or something like that.

And I heard his interview, and I just felt that man’s heart. And, and it resonated with me. And so I looked him up and I checked out his class and I joined [00:26:00] his class. Six months later, pr- a little bit, in that six months my life changed dramatically

Tim Melanson: Yeah.

Clay Green: Huge.

Um, and, and somewhere in that six months or shortly thereafter, I met someone who was just completely the opposite almost of of this big-hearted, open, vulnerable Dane, and he was Brendan Bouchard.

Tim Melanson: Yeah

Clay Green: And Brendan Bouchard at the time when I met him many years ago, he was a very structured person. And so what did I, what am I explaining?

I am explaining that my heart, I r- I recognized, I recognize now I resonated with Dane’s heart. But, uh, logically, I quickly understood that it was my technical background, my engineering and nuclear science, all that stuff background that made me resonate with Brendan and the way he delivered this information. Um, and here’s, [00:27:00] here’s, here’s what I’m gonna say it one more time to, to answer that question. There’s not really a whole lot of new information out there. You can learn how to use AI, and that’s new and a little different,

but, but in regards to the things that a new person needs right now, it’s not a whole lot, there’s not a whole lot of new information. I’ve got some, I think, way of doing some stuff. Um, but again, it’s not new. I’ve been doing it for a decade.

Tim Melanson: Yeah

Clay Green: uh, so go with your gut. Go with your gut. Make sure they got a money back guarantee and, and, and hire somebody to help you.

Follow a leader that you resonate with, because you’re not gonna make a mistake because everything always works out perfectly for you.

Tim Melanson: Yeah. Well, yeah. I think that, uh, I, I think that, uh, you’re right. There, there… I mean, there’s, uh, the information out there, uh, maybe you might need to hear it a different way in order for it to, like, connect with you, you know? ‘Cause, uh, I mean, [00:28:00] you might hear it many times from many different people, but it’s almost all the same thing.

Now, there are some certain tactics, like you say. There are some new technologies that you can learn and all that stuff. But when it comes down to it, I, I think, uh, in my life anyway, the most valuable coaches that I’ve had have been more the, the accountability type stuff. It’s, it’s holding yourself accountable for doing the things that you say that you’re gonna do, because that’s real- I mean, it, it, we all know how to go out there and be w- more, more successful.

I d- everybody knows what to do. They’re just not doing it, right?

Clay Green: You know what, Tim? I, I lo- I love you went there. We haven’t talked about this. Uh, what, but, but I’m just gonna share it. 100% agree. Uh, and I realized early on that there were two things that got me moving.

Tim Melanson: Mm-hmm.

Clay Green: One, we can label accountability. Not [00:29:00] my favorite word because, frankly, I don’t enjoy the, you know, "Hey, Tim, h- did you, did

you do 10 pushups today?"

I don’t like that kind of burden in my life.

But the other one I’m gonna say was engagement. Engagement from that mentor, engagement from that system that is, I’m learning from. And so I literally built an app called Your Engagement and Accountability Helper, YEAH, the YEAH app, for coaches, and I’m using it.

I’m using it today with my clients, and it’s like a, it’s an automated engagement and accountability thing. But my clients don’t, the clients don’t download an app. It’s just text messages. And so, so I have a daily check-in, sometimes a couple times a day, with m- some of my clients, um, where I’m asking, "Hey, did you meditate

today? Did you accomplish this journaling prompt today?" Whatever it is. And if they didn’t, then I get a [00:30:00] notification, and I can reach out to them if I need to because that is, that engagement, that, that connection. I, I, I… The, this, if there was, there was two things that drastically changed my life. And if you haven’t heard, I, I, I’m sure I talked about it back in the day, I hit a deer going 85 miles an hour on my motorcycle, and I did not crash. That moment drastically changed my understanding of my brain and my body, and it changed everything. Um, not from a motivation standpoint because, well, anyway, it doesn’t matter. The other one was a multimillionaire convinced me that let me take it off, that, that using these beads five times a day would change things.

And f- I, and he made me promise to do it for seven days. Four days in, everything shifted. So it was that engagement and that accountability from that mentor that [00:31:00] drove… That, that, I look at that as this, "Oh, I understand now," full circle, "how to start managing and controlling the contents of my consciousness."

Tim Melanson: Yeah.

Wow.

Clay Green: Meditation,

Tim Melanson: Well, you know what? Let’s get into your guest solo. So tell me what’s exciting in your business right now

Clay Green: That mu- there, okay, so I, I’m building, I’ve built this app and I’m in the early stages of releasing it and letting early adopters come on and test it. So we’re in the, in the process of that. Uh, ironically, 2012, so 15 plus year, 14 plus years ago, uh, the class I joined was a SAS class, software as a service.

And it’s taken me this long and, and now I’ve got customers and I’m producing an app. Um, so I’m excited about that. But more importantly, I’m excited about how for the last decade [00:32:00] I’ve basically been honing and teaching the same thing, which is, which is the enabling and empowering process, and I’ve got it right here. These are my words. Enable, empower, enthuse. And the enabling part is controlling the contents of your consciousness. The empower part, the empowering part is high performance habits and conscious flow control. Um, but the exciting thing is the realization that I’ve been doing this 10, 12 plus years now, and w- what I’m doing with the new clients because of the way that I ask that question.

What would I do differently after I’ve worked with someone for two or three years and they’re doing great, but what would I do differently? And I go back now and I, I really, really, really, really focus on, uh, the enabling part. Learning to actually do… And it’s different for everybody, just so we’re on the same page.

I’m not someone that says you have to [00:33:00] meditate this way or you have to journal that way. It’s completely unique. You gotta figure out your method,

and that’s what I help people do, and it just excites the crap out of me, man. Like, that’s… Seeing someone, uh, realize the power in their hands after they journal for a week, after they’ve meditated for a week and, and they come on a call and they’re like, "Oh my God, everything’s different.

I met this girl, I met this guy," and they’re like, "I got five clients."

These, these shifts that happen almost instantly once someone understands the mind-body connection and how to manage this thing. I, I love it. I’m so ex- and I, it’s happening so quick. I love it

Tim Melanson: So how do we find out more?

Clay Green: Uh, the safest way? consciousflowcommunity.com. Consciousflowcommunity.com. Uh, my email address is clay@enthusiasticclay.com, which is not the same [00:34:00] URL, but you can find it through there.

Um, that’s,

that’s the path.

Tim Melanson: So before we go, let’s talk a little bit about music here. Tell me, who is your favorite rock star?

Clay Green: My favorite rockstar.

Tim Melanson: Mm-hmm.

Clay Green: Uh-uh, no. It’s too varied.

Tim Melanson: Such a hard con

Clay Green: I’m bouncing Meatloaf, I’m bouncing

Believe it or not, believe it or not, this, and I gotta say this, uh, I was going through a divorce back in like ’98, ’99, 2000, and there was an artist that came out with an album and it really meant a lot to me, some of his very confident words. Uh, and today he’s not one of those favorite people,

I’ll put it that way. but but so it’s this, it’s this weird answer. I wanna tell you him. And then there’s Tesla with Signs, man.

Tim Melanson: Yeah?

Clay Green: Song. And then AC/DC, ZZ Top. Rockstar, uh, Run DMC with Aerosmith changed my life in the ’80s, man. I’m

an ’80s [00:35:00] kid. Uh, Prince.

Tim Melanson: Yeah

Clay Green: Prince. Still, in my opinion, the greatest halftime show ever.

Tim Melanson: Yep

Clay Green: In the purple rain, that man, that man made it rain for him. That was insane.

Tim Melanson: I’m surprised he didn’t get electrocuted.

Clay Green: He rocked that show. Oh man, so many rock stars. I, and I feel out of touch with modern music, I ain’t gonna lie.

Tim Melanson: Yeah. Yeah, yeah. The, they don’t make it like they used to. Although, you know what? There are some good stuff out there now, too. it’s, It’s

Clay Green: Oh, I agree. It’s great

Tim Melanson: coming. Right on. Well, thank… Oh

Clay Green: you- Wait, wait, wait, Tim. How would you answer that question? Who’s your favorite rockstar? I mean, holy, no, there’s so many.

Tim Melanson: There is a lot.

Clay Green: many.

Tim Melanson: The one that’s make the m- The the the band that’s made the most impact on me is The Beatles.

So, I mean, uh, and that’s just because it’s been a… a… When I was learning music, uh, the guys that were, you know, I was hanging around with at the time were big [00:36:00] Beatles fans, and I got into the Be- Beatles music.

And it’s just, it’s a great way to learn music because they were just so creative, and they broke so many grounds, and they wrote… Like, I mean, if you just learn The Beatles catalog, you’ll, you’ll get everything.

Like, you, you’ll learn blues, you’ll learn rock, you’ll learn, uh, you know, you’ll learn everything.

It, it, they, they even went into some of the Indian-type music. It’s

crazy all the stuff that you c- that you can learn through, uh, The Beatles. And that’s, that’s the reason why I choose them. Mm-hmm.

Clay Green: I love that.

I, I gotta drop Billy Joel real quick.

One of the greats. Yeah.

Uh, Neil- can’t, can’t leave out Neil Diamond. You ever see the movie Saving Silverman?

Tim Melanson: I have seen that movie, yep. Yep

Clay Green: Neil Diamond’s in there, that’s why.

Those are …Yeah.

Tim Melanson: Well, thank you for rocking out with me today, Clay. This has been a lot of fun

Clay Green: Tim, you’re the greatest, man.

I am so glad we touched base again.

Tim Melanson: Yeah, me too. Me too. This is a great episode. Make sure … To the listeners, make sure you go to workathomerockstar.com for more information, and we’ll see you next time on the Work at Home Rockstar [00:37:00] podcast