Genie Love – Can You Have a Manageable Neurodiverse Life? with Coach Genie Love

Tim Melanson: Hello, and welcome to today’s episode of the Work at Home Rockstar podcast.

Excited for today’s guest. She is an executive function coach at Beyond Coaching, and what she does is she helps people with ADHD and autism to get the strategies they need to better manage their time and attention to meet their long term goals. Very excited to be rocking up today with Jeanie Love. Hey, Jeanie.

You ready to rock?

Genie Love: I am ready to rock.

Tim Melanson: Awesome. Cool. And so, Genie Love, is that your name or is that a stage?

Genie Love: No, that is my name. Um, so love is from my father and Jeanie. Interesting. There are five generations of genie’s in my family. So it’s a family name that goes all the way down to my daughter as well.

Tim Melanson: That is awesome. So that’s cool. So hopefully we’re gonna get some wishes, uh, fulfilled on this, this podcast.

Genie Love: Yes, Go for it.

Tim Melanson: So we always do our best, so we always start off in a good note. So tell me a story of success in your business that we can be inspired.

Genie Love: You know, I just feel like success for me is being here right now at this point because, um, you know, I was a public education teacher, a high school teacher in the US for 15 years, and then my family and I, uh, moved to South America where I was teaching for five years, and Covid brought us back and, and I was, had.

Like sort of gap of time where I wasn’t going back to public education. I was gonna be available for my nine. Well, she was seven year old daughter at the time in case she needed to be homeschooled. And so there was sort of this gap of time where I didn’t have anything going on professionally and I was just trying to figure out what I was gonna do because I didn’t think going back to public education was gonna be what was best for my family.

Um, it’s too exhausting in the. And, uh, my daughter, we’ve recently found out, has adhd and she had some behavioral challenges and I needed to be emotionally available for her. I needed to be physically available for her. And so there was just like this weird, like, what am I gonna do? And. I was fortunate to have this chunk of time where I was just researching like I was on Indeed every day, several times a day.

I was on LinkedIn, just like putting in all the keywords. What am I good at? What do I know about? What does that lead me to? And I randomly kind of found out that. So the experience that I had teaching high school students, I really identified most with the kids who have ADHD and autism. And then I found out that there’s this wave of neurodiversity that’s sort of catching up to adults.

And adults are beginning to identify themselves as having ADHD or autism and wanting help with executive functioning skills, which I can explain what those are. And. So I just reached out. I put myself on fiber just to see would anybody want any coaching, And they did. And I had clients from all over the world.

It was amazing. And it is still ongoing that I work with clients on fiber. Um, and then I decided to just like, go out on my own a little bit and try to see how, how many more people I can reach. Provide better services, and here I am. I’m doing it. I’m an entrepreneur, which is a word I never thought I would use to identify myself.

And, uh, I feel like a success story because I am doing this for my family. That is where I started. I started with how can I create a life? It’s gonna be better for my family. And then I just worked to build that and, um, I’m helping clients and they appreciate the work that I’m doing and I’m doing it for my family.

So I feel like this, this is success for me.

Wow, that is an amazing story. Well done . Thanks. Well done. Thank you. And going out on five or two. That’s really cool. And finding out that people are actually looking for it now. Yeah, I mean now with the good note, there’s usually some bad notes along the way as well, so I wanna make sure that we touch on those as well.

Like the things that may might not have gone according to plan. So was there some stuff, some big things that happened that didn’t go according to plan and you know, how did you get through?

Yeah, well, um, I, well here, I feel like every day I’m experiencing that because I’m actually kind of a shy person who doesn’t like to put myself out there.

And so if you look me up on LinkedIn, I don’t have very many connections. I’m actively working to grow that. That’s me putting myself out there. I don’t like Facebook. I don’t generally use. And so what I’m doing is, I know, but I enjoy making connections. Like I’m, I, I’m so excited to talk to you. I’m so excited to talk to anyone, but putting myself out there, that first step, and so for me, and this is kind of what I coach my clients when they’re encountering whatever the hurdle is, it’s like you have to acknowledge that that hurdle is something that is in front of you.

And as soon as you’ve done that, you acknowledge it, you’ve taken it out of the emotional part of your brain in the. You’ve moved it to the front of your brain where, you know, have power to make a decision about it. And so that awareness, that moment of mindfulness, so I, I know that I’m now gonna send out some cold emails to random people to see if they wanna talk to me.

Okay? I’m gonna find the right space in my home to do that. I’m going to make sure that the space is set up for me to do that, and I’m gonna tackle it head. . And so every day I feel like you’re encountering, or at least I am encountering hurdles that feel like failures and then I just prepare myself to address them.

Wow.

Tim Melanson: Do you find it easier to talk to people online or like in person? Is it any different to you or are you nervous either way?

Genie Love: No, this I love, I can do this. Like I can, I love to hang out with people. I wanna learn about you and your story. Um, when I’m coaching my clients, like that’s definitely a part of it is getting to know them.

So the hardest part for me, there’s something about the online world. Maybe it’s the fact that I’m 45 years old, so I didn’t grow up online, and so for me to just like put something out there permanently for the world is daunting. And so that is something that I have to confront on a daily basis.

Tim Melanson: Yeah, I’m 45 as well,

Okay, cool. Yeah, we, we, you know, this high. Yeah, it’s this hybrid generation where we’ve been online for a lot of our adult life, but, you know, I still remember not being online and having to actually go to a friend’s house and see if they’re home , you know?

Genie Love: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So putting myself out there for all of like eternity and permanence is, Yeah.

It’s daunting for me.

Tim Melanson: Yeah, for sure. So, okay. Uh, one of the things we talk about is the jam room. It’s the, the home office. It’s the place where you, the magic happens. So, you know, that is a struggle for a lot of people getting started to find a place to work and to set that up properly. So what are your tips on, you know, setting up a successful jam?

Genie Love: Yeah, so, um, my background’s a little blurred cuz we are in the middle of my small house and so I don’t actually have an office. Um, and so, but what has always worked for me and what, again, i, I kind of coach my clients is to think about different ways to use your space. Because sitting at a desk, From nine to five, I think it’s kind of a mis like the longer we sit at that desk and stare at the same computer, the same space, it’s like the creativity just kind of drains away and you get heavier and heavier in your chair.

And so actually my, my, um, office is portable. I use a laptop. And I am a big fan of just like paper and pencil because sometimes to be creative I just need to like get crazy on a piece of paper. And so it depends on the task that I’m doing. So if I. There is a space where I have an external monitor, so if there’s something that’s gonna need several screens or a lot of my attention, I’ll plug in there.

Um, but if I’m just researching new people that I want to talk to or studying, you know, the profiles of my clients, maybe I’ll just sit on the couch and enjoy that for a little while. Or if I’m getting tired and need a change of scenery, I might just pick up my office and turn. And just change the position or face a different wall.

And just that slight movement just seems to kind of bring back the creative juices flowing in my brain. And so I actually kind of encourage people to reconsider the home office and see if you can have some of that be portable, like I’ve coached clients to, to stand. And even just work for a little bit at their kitchen counter, if that’s the place that you have to stand, um, when you really need to just like, again, refresh and be creative again.

So I think your office can and should be different places depending upon the activity you’re doing. Yeah.

Tim Melanson: And we get the benefit of being able to do that working from home because we can go even to a coffee shop actually. What are your thoughts on that? Like, should you get out of the house?

Genie Love: Absolutely yes, you should get out of the house.

Um, for me, a coffee shop probably isn’t the place cuz if you’re looking at me on video, you can see I have the big headphones on cuz they help me focus better. So a coffee shop probably wouldn’t be, but if you are just trying to figure out how am I gonna develop my website or what am I gonna do to change my marketing?

And you really need to think deeply about something, just go sit outside under a tree. I really encourage you to leave your computer and just take the notebook and the pencil and leave your phone and just sit for a half an hour and see how that feels, and see what comes out of you. And it’s really kind of amazing.

And so just, yeah, really experiment with space and places and styles of chairs. And I don’t know, maybe you wanna lay on the floor when you’re, you know, writing. Emails that are going out to people. I just try anything, see how that feels.

Tim Melanson: Love it. Love it. So now you know, it seems like you have a lot of knowledge and I’m wondering, was that all just already there or did you learn it from anybody else?

What, Like what’s your, what’s your process of learning

Genie Love: more? Yeah. I think I, when I look back across the 20 years of my working career and into college, . Um, I think I’ve kind of been a nerd about what’s going on in the brain the whole time. My first degree was as a physical therapist and my favorite, the patients that I found the most enjoyment working with were the ones who had had strokes, so now they need to sort of recreate all the connections in their brain after having a stroke.

After that, I moved into working with kids with learning disabilities at a high school. . And again, now I look at it and I go, it was all about how do I make these connections work for kids who have learning disabilities and the pathways that are typically there. Art working, and we need to reroute them and create new ones.

And all along I’ve been, I realize now that I’ve been developing these strategies on myself, I used to get up with my father early in the morning before school and high school to write a paper when I was the most fresh or to revisit something before. Uh, revisit some concepts before a test or something like that.

And I needed a, a place without stimulation to study in college. And so I would go to the deepest dungeons of the library, like the deprivation chamber to really be able to focus. If I had to memorize something, I was pacing back and forth across my dorm and just movement. I needed to move and then, I just continu to study it.

I, I’m learning about it by my own daughter having ADHD now at nine. And I just keep listening to podcasts, people who are fine tuning time and attention, and this ever just like increasingly distracted world. And I just find it just wildly interesting and stuff that I try out and fine tune myself and, and I learn from my clients who have strategies.

And so I’m just kind of a nerd about it.

Tim Melanson: Yeah, isn’t it great that we have so many opportunities to learn nowadays? Like, you know, podcasts are so incredible, you can learn anything you want in audio books as well. You know, I used to read a lot of physical books and now I’ve sort of moved a lot of it into podcasts.

And maybe that’s a question for you. What do you think is better? Uh, you know, uh, does it depend on the person or like, do you think it’s better to actually get a physical book and read or. Hire a coach or do podcast? What do you think? Well,

Genie Love: maybe it depends on what you’re, maybe it depends on what you’re doing.

I think if you wanna learn something deeply, Probably a book would be the way to go because the author has spent a lot of time and attention and detail into researching it and studying it and writing this sort of, you know, novel for you. So when I find something that really resonates with me and I, I don’t, I can’t do digital books.

I want paper in my hand again. Maybe that’s a product of my age, I’m not sure, but I also wanna be able to write on it and do your pages and stuff. Um, Podcasts I’ve, Those are just amazing because you could really just find a niche of like what you’re passionate about, what you’re challenged by, what you wanna learn more about, and there is so much information that people have that we.

Now have access to. And so that’s amazing. I do wanna encourage you every once in a while, I, I think we are a multitasking world now, and so the podcast is always on in the background. It’s on when I’m doing the dishes, it’s on when I’m driving, it’s on when I’m taking a shower. And if you really want to pay attention to the information, consider it like a book, like where, this is just a time when I’m going to sit and absorb this information.

And I also want you to encourage you not to always have like sound going on in the background to have some quiet, just, I’m only doing one task time. Um, and then coaching. I didn’t even realize that was a thing until I got into it myself, and it’s just I have hired my own coach who, um, is helping me to grow this business because I was on five and that was doing fine, but I wanted to see if I could reach more people and, you know, get my own website going and learn how to send emails and learn how to reach out to podcasters and get my word out.

And without a coach, I would not have even known where to. . And so I kind of look at it like, it’s like paying someone to go to college, except there’s this one very specific thing that I need help with. And there’s one, this person, uh, has experience with it and has had success with it and has helped other people find success with it.

And so I’m gonna, I’m gonna take all that and I’m gonna cut off years of me learning it and I’m just gonna have them coach me through that. And it’s just unbelievably value, like valuable, like an investment in me and my. And making it go and. Like, I, now I wanna coach for everything, , whatever the thing is.

That is hard for me. I wanna coach for

Tim Melanson: that. Yeah. Yeah. You’re totally right. And so I like what you said about the, cuz you know, having a podcast running in the background as you’re doing other things. I mean, yes, you’re not, uh, you’re not necessarily. Uh, you know, consciously learning all those things, as you mentioned, but it is in there somewhere and so yes.

Rather than having music playing in the background, which some people do listen to the radio while they’re working, you know, I’ve found it just as useful and maybe even more useful to listen to a podcast instead of music and especially instead of the radio. Cause then you don’t have those news breaks, right?

you can actually listen to something and, and you. But like you said, you don’t really, or do you like, how does that work in your brain? Hi,

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Genie Love: Okay, good, Thanks. Yeah, I can clarify that, which is, there are some podcasts that I’m listening to a little bit more lightheartedly for because I’m just wanna hear the investment news of the day or whatever. And so that might be something that’s going on in the background.

But if there is a podcaster, so. Cal Newport is one of the ones where I am realizing that a lot of the strategies that I was developing through the years, he’s actually got the research that goes behind it and knows it so much more in depth than I do. And so when I’m listening to him, I’m learning. And so I make sure that that is sort of a different, uh, environment that I can focus and pay attention.

Better. And so like if my daughter wants to come in and interrupt me, I actually pause it so that I can give her my attention, then come back to it. So I guess it depends on the purpose of the listening and how much attention. It should have. Love it. You

Tim Melanson: wanna get it? Okay. And, and so the way that I, that I’m seeing it in, in the way that I do things as well, is that sometimes I listen to something or watch something to learn, and sometimes I listen to it as a form of inspiration.

And yeah, motivation. And you know, I find that sometimes when you’re listening, especially to these types of podcasts where there’s, you know, inspiring stories and all that kind of stuff, it’s great to have that in the background. Yeah. Because you sort of maybe by osmosis pick up the. Motivation or , you know, You know what I mean?

Yes. The, the, the energy of, of what’s going on in that podcast. And it helps you to just keep things moving forward in your, And, and that makes sense cuz even with music, there’s different energies to different types of music. And I know that from being a musician, some of it will bring you down. Some of it will bring you up.

So I imagine the same thing would happen with, you know, podcasts as well.

Genie Love: Yeah. That. Yeah, that’s an amazing way to describe it. I think it’s just like, what? Yeah. So what are you hoping to get out of it? So like, yeah, when you were like, Like your dad just broken up with your partner when you were in high school and you just wanted to listen to just like sad, like heartbreaking songs.

Yeah. And then when you’re getting ready to go out with your friends, you have to pump up. So yeah. Podcast can be the same way. It’s like I’m listening to this podcast cuz it provides this for me. Whether it’s an escape because you’re listening to like crime, true crime or whatever. Or you know, I just wanna get briefly caught up on the news or if I’m trying to learn or whatever.

And Absolutely. I love that. That’s an excellent way to describe it. Right

Tim Melanson: on. Okay, so let’s talk a little bit about keeping the hat full and the cash flow and the sales and all that kind of stuff. So, you know, when we get started, and I understand that you’re, you’re actually new in your business as well, so, uh, there’s a real challenge in the beginning to, especially in the beginning, I find, uh, to make sure that you are spending enough money to keep your business moving forward, but also, Consciously knowing that, that it’s gonna provide a return on investment.

And I’m wondering like what’s your, you know, how have you been keeping your head above water during this time?

Genie Love: Yeah, and I, I definitely am, like, I pay attention to my finances and so I know I’m one of those people that does exactly what’s going on the credit card and how many services that I’m paying for.

So for me, like it was a huge leap of faith to just. Make an initial investment in the coach who’s gonna help me get this business, you know, growing. Um, and then, so, and this is kind of like I coached my clients who maybe have a lot of, So you’re, you have these, all these ideas going on in your head, I need to do all these things and I’m kind of stressed about the money.

Is it gonna come together? And it’s, I think, um, it works best if you can just kind of like narrow in the focus, like, you know, that your. Is gonna go and you are going to take a little bit of financial hit while this is taking off. And so whether that is that you take out a personal loan or you have to dip into your savings or you stop contributing to your retirement for a little while or whatever, you consciously making this financial decision.

And then really, this is where you know a coach comes in, is that they can just really narrow your focus. These are the steps, Do. And do this and do this, and they’ll try to, like, you’ll, you’ll be thinking like one year out, one year out that I, I, I hope that I’ll be making this much money, like this is my goal.

But there’s like so many different aspects to getting there with your business, whether it’s, you know, marketing and. I don’t know, just all the things that you have to do plus your daily life. So I encourage people to just like really focus in like, what do I need to do the first three weeks? And really focus in on what is the number one priority.

Do those things. You’re gonna see the tiniest bit of progress and then say, Okay, so now for the next month, I have to add this in. , um, to whatever it is that I’m doing to grow my business. And then just kind of keep the blinders on and move forward. And then you’re gonna start to feel momentum, right?

You’re gonna see that you’re, you’re making progress. And then you know that if I just keep plugging away at this, that. My business is gonna take off. And so I really just bring your, your focus and super narrow, as narrow as you can and try to let go. Like you’re aware of the money issues, but you can’t let it pull you away from what you’re really doing.

And just like one foot in front of the other, one thing next, um, I did, you know, pick up, I do have my fiber clients and so I continue to have those. And then before I really got started, Growing my business. You know, I picked up a very short term side hustle that, you know, was really good financially. I was like, Okay, I’m gonna put my intention into this.

This is gonna help me financially for three months, and then I’m gonna really hit this hard. And so, Keep your eye open for opportunities like that as well. And they’re out there on indeed like, just like tiny little side hustles that can really make a big difference financially and just be like, I’m just gonna snatch that up for a little bit now.

Coming back hard to this. Love it. So that’s, that’s what I’ve been doing and I think it’s really, cuz like I said, I, I am sort of crazy about the finances, but it’s helped to keep me going and I.

Tim Melanson: Love it. Yeah. And what you said about nicheing down and also uh, breaking things up into smaller pieces is a big thing too, cuz I think that a lot of people make that mistake of like, uh, trying to change too many habits at once.

Yes. You know, you’re definitely gonna fail if you do it that way. You know, I, I, I, I do know that through my experiences, you sort of have to figure out, you know, what’s the most important habit I need to build right now? And just start with that one habit and stick with it. I mean, you’ll, you’ll be, you’ll be, Tempted to go, Oh, that worked out well today, so I’m gonna add another one tomorrow.

No, it’s not a habit yet. . Right. You’ve gotta do it consistently. Yes. For several days or, or, or maybe even a month before you start to add something else. And so, you know, I, I like, I like that. That’s kind of the process that you’re taking as well, Right? To do it that way.

Genie Love: Yeah, you can only, You’re absolutely right.

You can only do one thing at a time, and there’s no quick fixes. And I think we’re, and again, in this distracted world with so many, I don’t know, things coming at us at a time that we just think that there’s gonna be a quick fix and there’s not. And you have to just be ready to put your head down and just plug away at it and, and, and don’t give up because it’s not happening.

And don’t give up because you’ve had a setback and don’t give up because there’s. The hurdle that is so challenging for you, because I just looked at it like, um, there’s this author, Daniel Pink, and he, uh, wrote a book about regrets and he had studied, um, regrets. The people all over the world. And one regret that is common amongst people from all over the world is, um, not.

Tried the thing, not having done the thing. And I, that’s where I, I got to this point. I was like, I’m 45 years old. I’m halfway through my working career. I’ve worked 20 years. I’ll probably work 20 more. I can’t look back on this and say, what if, what if I hadn’t really given this everything. That I have.

And so that was my inspiration. I had to go for it.

Tim Melanson: Beautiful. Yeah. And you know what you said about the quick fix and stuff. I, I think that that’s, I mean, the logic there is that if it was easy, there was a quick secret, then everybody’d be doing it. Right. But then on the other hot hand of that, there are a lot of people that have successful home businesses and self-employed, uh, careers, and they’re doing great.

And so we know number one, that it is possible, but what all those people have in common is that they stuck with it and they, they built those habits and you know, probably they got help. Uh, you know, that is one thing that I noticed a lot as well, is that they’re not afraid to ask for help.

Genie Love: Right. Yeah, and just, I mean, like I said, with my small group of LinkedIn connections, just put yourself out there and talk to people.

People want to help you. They’re excited for what you have to offer. The other thing I found is that you have something to offer. Like what is simple or seems sort of mindless to you is somebody else’s epiphany. And so, Just put that out there and people want to hear from you. They want to have whatever it is that you have to offer and they wanna talk to you about it.

and it’s just, Yeah. It’s so interesting.

Tim Melanson: Yeah. And what, uh, what is the thing that you dread is something that someone else loves to do? . Right.

Genie Love: And that is, that is something that I’ve, Yeah. Looking to like eventually reach out for, right? Is how can I get somebody to help me with this thing that is, um, causes me so much stress?

So how can you get

Tim Melanson: help? Absolutely. So it’s time for your guest solo. So tell me what’s exciting in your business right now?

Genie Love: Um, I think so, um, neurodiversity is, uh, a word to describe anybody who thinks a little differently than maybe what has been typically or nor expected in the past. So perhaps you have dyslexia, perhaps you have d perhaps you have odd autism, adhd.

Many other things. Um, and it’s catching on with adults and it’s become part of the diversity, equity, and inclusion movement. And so, um, adults are getting help, but also it’s becoming more, something more common to talk about and people are becoming more open about it. So I am loving helping adults. Um, Get control of their time and attention so that they can focus better and be their more, most creative selves.

Uh, I’m also excited because businesses are embracing this idea as well. And so, um, you know, I, I look forward to working with some businesses to. Help them make an environment where people can just be themselves as far as perhaps you don’t have the most organized desks, perhaps time management is a challenge for you.

Perhaps you get this like large, uh, project assigned to you, but you don’t always know how to, The pieces fit together and we can help each other and coach each other. People aren’t afraid to ask questions and not try to hide. All of that to look like you fit into this little box of what we expect the normal worker to be.

And then once people don’t have to hide that stuff anymore, then the creativity just explodes because people are wildly creative thinkers. But if they have to spend so much time trying to hide their weaknesses, um, then. Then that takes too much of their energy and they don’t get to be as creative. And so I love this.

It’s sort of like this thing that’s just sort of starting to catch on, It’s catching on across the world and, uh, I, I’m excited to be a part of it. Right on.

Tim Melanson: So, Jeanie, tell me what would be the ideal client? So, so who would I be if I was the type of person that would get the most out of one of your, uh, session?

So let’s

Genie Love: say that you have, so executive functions, which I had mentioned previously is the ability to make decisions, solve problems, manage your time, uh, cope with stress in an efficient and. You know, positive way, um, and just generally organize yourself. And for some people like me, that’s hard. I have just pieces of notebook paper everywhere.

Um, but we can, there are a lot of strategies that we can implement to help you find blocks of time to give your work or. Something that you’re passionate about and haven’t had time to, to haven’t ha found the time to give to that passion music or a woman who, I had a client who just wanted to find time to make photo albums of her family so we can work together.

To find those blocks of time. So somebody who’s willing, I, I can’t give you the tool. I’m not gonna give you the hack that’s gonna get you there, but will work together to create a tool and a system that will work for you. And so my cli, my clients who kind of drop away are the ones that want the quick fix.

They want, this calendar’s gonna work for them. This app is gonna work for them, but it’s not. And so if you wanna come to me and we’ll work together and. We’ll create systems that work for you and then we’ll like work on strategies for when things kind of just fall apart. So something has come up that has completely derailed your system.

And so how do we cope with that? How do we get back on track? Um, and a lot of these people have been, a lot of my clients have, uh, are carrying some baggage from when they were younger because the school system wasn’t set up for them. And so they have felt beat down. and that they don’t have it together and everybody else does.

And so we do a lot of mindfulness work on coming to terms with that and who we are and how to access your creative crazy brain. Um, so yeah, those are the clients I’m looking for. If that, if that sounds like something you want help with, I would, I would love to talk to you. Just gimme a call. We can chat, I’ll give you strategies even just to chat, uh, whether or not we end up working together long.

Right

Tim Melanson: on. Right on. Well on on your last point there a little, a little secret. Nobody has it together, . It’s just so people are better at hiding it. .

Genie Love: Exactly. That’s my point. Everybody’s working on something. Yeah. Oh yeah. You just have had this one hammered to your brain for so many years that you think it.

Yeah, but you’re, I agree.

Tim Melanson: Nobody has it together. Nobody has it together. I think that was one of the, one of the, the memes that I’ve seen recently is that, you know, when you’re a child, you think that adults, you know, have it all together. And then once you become an adult, you realize the adults have no idea what’s going on.

So

Genie Love: no idea. So who are you following? I don’t know. We’re all just making it up as we go here and just trying to like fine tune what works. Yeah. And um, so I love, I love to do that with people and help each other. Right. . Exactly.

Tim Melanson: So how do we find out more about you then?

Genie Love: So, my website is Genie love.coach.

Genie is G E N I. L o v e.coach. You can find me there on my website. Um, I’m also on LinkedIn and looking for new friends, so if anybody wants to reach out, I’d love to talk to you. , I’m looking for

Tim Melanson: friends. ,

Genie Love: I’m looking for more

Tim Melanson: friends. Right on. Thank you so much for rocking out with me today, Jeanie. This has been a lot of fun.

Genie Love: Thanks. I had a lot of fun too. It’s fun talking to

Tim Melanson: you. Great to the listeners, make sure you subscribe, great and comment, and we’ll see you next time on the Work at Home Rockstar podcast.